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Young Rocket 780 or Ross 780?

By 203 , June 28, 2013 in MarineTalk

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So my old man and I are looking at trailer yachts.

Would it be too much to ask for a opinion? positives and negatives? which goes better etc etc

There is both a rocket 780 and a Ross 780 on trade me at the moment, both of them we are looking at.

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are you crazy or just stupid? unless you want to risk your life on these light little open transom death traps then i would be looking at nothing less than a mk1 raven or maybe a nice little h28.

Not sure what jharkin is getting at, clearly he has never sailed many trailer yachts.

My only experience is with the Ross 780, both racing and cruising with the family for years, they are awesome boats, although a little tippy compared to the modern sports type trailer yachts.

But they are good honest trailer yachts that perform well in most conditions, also I would buy the Ross just because it would be easier to sell later I reckon.

They seem to be good value for money at the moment as well.

Ours was a glass one built by Hopwood, the woodies were demons on the race track but would need a good survey as they are getting on a bit these days

Let me know how how ya get on.

The Young has a lower NZTYA number than the Ross, this would suggest the Ross is a better performer. However theres not much in it.

There is a larger Ross fleet out there, so if your looking to sail next to similar boat your choice is restricted. I see the Ross has a bulb, so that would put it outside the class specification as approved by NZTYA, so it would need a 'modified' NZTYA number to race in trailer yacht events.

The Ross is a well proven racer and cruiser.

I love these comparison threads. The Ross 780 was my dream boat for awhile before I got interested in multis. They were an expensive item back then (20 years ago) but bloody good value now. Did you look at the one for 15k a few weeks back?

Deep Purple 517

Crewed on a Ross 780 for 3 years, won 2 nationals, I don't think you could get a better boat in that size and style

methinks jh was attempting humour

Both good, since racing is your thing look at where you'll get the best competition.

If you could find one an Elliott 780 would be worth a look too, they are quick but probably a few more bucks. Look at Erazer giving the sportsboat shorthaul yachts the hurry up in last years Simrad.

methinks jh was attempting humour     Both good, since racing is your thing look at where you'll get the best competition.

Hey Brooker - The Ogre's on the money. Jordan being funny. He's a bloody good lad (but don't tell him that)

I've only sailed the Ross 780 'Electra' - an extremely good wooden version. Good boats. Our late mate Rene Den Ouden was the guru

Yeah I did think that after I had posted, just giving his mate some stick

Wotcha talking about you snot faced little turd?

Like that????

Wotcha talking about you snot faced little turd?     Like that????

that should have been "spotty snot faced little turd", standards can't be allowed to slide you know

Kestrahl 10

The Rocket 780's are more common in Australia than NZ where they compare speed wise with the Elliott 780's and are a tad quicker than the Ross 780. Maybe that is not the case here with the earlier ones and there are not many here to really compare. The R780 would have easier resale as it is much more widely known in NZ.

From racetrack the Ross looks to be one of the faster 780s. 0.7461 is a pretty good number for a little boat.

Can't quite make out the name of the young in the trademe photos to try and look it up on racetrack though...

Having owned both in AUS. I can say the Youngs here are quicker than the Ross's but the the ease of sailing and the accommodation of the Ross leaves the Youngs for dead.

Grayballs 0

Ross Boat all the way.... I have a wooden one and have cruised with my young family on lake Rotoiti for the last 3 summers with no issues only good times. Easy boat to sail but also pretty quick for an old tub. The best part is if it was a class boat there are plenty of others to line up next to.

We have a new class being announced very soon.

7.7 mtr ply trailerable. Available at any stage including 'Flat Pack'. so you can build your own.

Design is based on the open 40 but a much smaller model.

The idea is to enable owners to get into an affordable boat that will be able to obtain Cat 3. or Cat 1 if you are keen. Designed to suit Short Handed sailing too.

The first is due to start construction this week and we have 2 more owners ready to go.

An official announcement and promo is not far away which will include construction photos.

Norwegian Blue 10

We have a new class being announced very soon. 7.7 mtr ply trailerable. Available at any stage including 'Flat Pack'. so you can build your own.     Design is based on the open 40 but a much smaller model.   The idea is to enable owners to get into an affordable boat that will be able to obtain Cat 3. or Cat 1 if you are keen. Designed to suit Short Handed sailing too.   The first is due to start construction this week and we have 2 more owners ready to go.   An official announcement and promo is not far away which will include construction photos.

I'd be keen to understand all the costs, rig requirements etc. In the current market it may be better for me to move the rig and fittings from Infiltrator to a new hull and bin the old one.

Young Entertainer 61

I would be keen to get any info floating around as well, in the same thought at infiltrator, do you throw away the existing hull and use the bits on a new build? given the coyote is a 7.7 already most of the gear you would think would be at the right size

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The price of a carbon mast will vary significantly based on where you live and which company you go through. The blank section would be around the $4000-6000 AUD. Plus another $1000-2000 for spreaders, $2000 for rigging and fittings. $1000-2000 for a boom. Depending on how much you do yourself and the quality of the gear you use I would think you would be looking at least $40000-$50000 to build from scratch. Makes a second hand Y780 look cheap at half that price. Cheers Mojo  

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Young Rocket 780 on galvanised dual axle trailer. The Jim Young designed Rocket 780 is one of the boats that started the sports boat craze. Although the design is more than 20 years old, it is still fast. The Young 780 is a beamy planning hull with plumb bow and lift keel and rudder with a cabin that provides 4 berths. Built by AGS Yachts on the Gold Coast in 1990, the boat is built using the WEST system with a cedar core. Boat specs Overall length 8.02m Waterline length 7.80m Beam 2.50m Mast overall 10.20m Displacement 860kg Max draft 1.8m Headroom 1.5m Sails Battened main with 2 reefing points No1, 2 and 3 and headstay foil 4 symmetrical spinnakers including a masthead spinnaker. Electrics Sounder (New transducer) Log UHF radio (New) Navigation lights (New) Auxiliary power 8hp long leg outboard with charging circuit which has not been run for some time Safety Flares Fire extinguisher Manual bilge pump 4 lifejackets Without a doubt, the boat has seen better days but it is still fast, a delight to sail, well equipped for racing and a cheap entry into sports boat racing. It has been tuned by its original owner with changes to the mast step and rudder. The boat could do with a repaint inside and out and offers the opportunity for further modification such as the inclusion of an asymmetrical spinnaker. The interior is stripped out for racing but some Rocket 780s boats have been fitted out with galleys and head. The trailer is in very good condition and bought in 2008 shortly before finding a crew and time became difficult. Trailer and boat are registered until 15th March If you are interested or have any questions please phone. Due to the possibility of scam text messages they won't get a response.

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Young Rocket 780 Trailer Sailer Lift Keel Fast Sports Yacht (Sydney) Noreserve!

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Young Rocket 780 Trailer Sailer lift keel fast sports yacht (Sydney) NoReserve! Please read terms & conditions carefully before you bid thank you things to know & do 1 she will need a new center board (have bulb)2 No current Registration on boat or trailer 3 may need lift device to lift keel bulb near yacht Now the good news 1Rocket 780 well known fast fun production yachts2 mk 1 Young Rocket cedar hull with epoxy glass 3 may suit racer fast cruiser or social family yacht4 Rebuilt transom & new rear deck epoxy glassed 5 new windows re glassed entire top sides full repaint6 keel bulb expoxied & re glassed weight 260 kgs 7 new sheet winches self tailing new sheets & wind ex8 aluminium mast and boom with rigging many sails 9 hot dipped galvanised tandem trailer twin axel 10 trailer bearings replaced less than 1000ks ago 11 can take outboard on stern has outboard plate12 much work done by loving owners over 5 years 13 has rudder not shown has centreboard cassette14 has centreboard keel / shoe / bulb see photos 260kg15 life lines stanchions pulpit push pits tow rails all fitted16 adjustable bowsprit from flying the kite at speed zoom17 could sleep 3 to 4 persons in her current set up 18 storage can go on @ $ 220 per month if needed 19 has Qld number plate light boat and boat code hin20 will provide bill of sale so you can register boat & trailer21 location of yacht about 45 mins north of Sydney cbd 22 inspections welcome can help interstate buyers too23 No Reserve Yipeeee!!!!!!!! To be sold !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Final Commentsexciting opportunity to own a smart looking yacht on trailerfun fast regatta sports performance yacht or fun social sailing yacht with much work done by loving owner overthe past 5 years she will be cheap to be sold! Special service for auction winner !!!!

Can meet you train station or airport freearrange mooring for you long or short termassist with all registration transfer all docscan help with industry contacts if neededtrade of boats must chat before auction endcan buy or sell your boat Australia widecan arrange delivery for call for price guidecan arrange anything boat for you can do! Australia wide helping people with boats ! Buy bidding you agree to the following 1 agree to pay auction classifieds board auction price 2 pay in full within 3 days of auction end 3 fast payment by bank or cash only !!! 4 make contact with 24 hours of auction end 5 will sell to another party above not met Bid with confidence we have been boating since 1976we have worked on boats since 1990we hold commercial power & sail qualificationsOn going experience classifieds board seller (boats) Need a chat before bidding????? To feel more comfortable or questions???

Email 24 hours 7 days a week or we welcome a chat on the phone if you would like to askmore questions & or inspection yes can do please email your name and phone number and a good time to call & we will endeavour to call you happy & safe boating

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