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Island Trader 37/38
In many ways, this overweight ketch exemplifies the worst of taiwan boatbuilding during the 1970s..
During the late 1970s, when Taiwan-built boats began to appear on the U.S. market in increasing numbers, few boats better illustrated the Far East yacht than the Island Trader 37 or 38. (Same boat, different name depending on which brochure, in which year, you read.)
Imported to the U.S. by Marine International of Bay Head, New Jersey, between about 1977 and 1988, the Island Trader line apparently embodied the general misconception of what a real oceangoing boat should look like: Clipper bow, taffrails, pinrails, wooden spars, and enough spring in the sheer to mimic the curl of a breaking wave. And don’t forget the interior teak carvings of five-clawed Chinese dragons (symbol of good luck), poppy flowers and Dr. Fu Manchu.
You can’t exactly trace these designs to some turn-of-the-century Scandinavian lifeboat design; in fact, the designers seemed to have invented their own history, a history without a past.
Good subject. Who did design this boat? You won’t find any names on the brochures or in old sailboat magazine directories. William Garden gets at least occasional credit for the infamous Island Trader 41, built by a handful of yards and variously called the Yankee Clipper 41, Formosa 41, CT 41 and Sea Wolf 41. Did some American broker/distributor pen the lines, or, more likely, did some Taiwan builder flash the molds sitting behind his cousin’s chicken coop?
Maybe even he doesn’t even know who designed the boat, or if he did, he darn sure doesn’t want to pay royalties. Taiwan, in the early days of fiberglass boatbuilding, had the unsavory reputation of freely modifying plans to avoid unnecessary expenditures. In this culture, everything’s fair in love, war and business.
In profile, the Island Trader 37 looks like she caught a wave on the chin. The sheer seems exaggerated, rising too high in the bow and stern.
The low-aspect rig is short, carrying just 567 square feet of sail on a 30′ 4″ waterline. Displacement is reported anywhere from 18,600 lbs. to 26,400 Lbs. Holy cow! Did we say twenty-six thousand, four hundred pounds? This gives the 37 an incredible displacement/length ratio of 422, and an abominable sail area/displacement ratio of 10.7!
Lastly, check out the keel. This is the literal and pure conception of “full keel.” (Maybe the Island Trader does have a 19th century heritage after all!) At the least, we’d like to see the forefoot cut away to reduce wetted area.
Construction
Typical of this era, the Island Trader 37 hull is solid fiberglass, and has lots of it. One owner of a 1982 model, responding to our questionnaire, said he was “bounced around by a small whale without damage.” Other owners, too, praise the heavy construction, alluding only to mysterious defects: “Chinese glass work needs some help.” Or, “Chinese ‘stainless’ is interesting.”
But it’s the teak that invariably draws interest. And, of course, there’s lots of it. Though more than capable of first-class work, the Taiwan yards don’t always deliver a first-class product. The owner of a 1979 model said, “The finish work (teak), while plentiful, is only fair.” Others, however, noted that some care had been taken in matching grains, and that the joinerwork was for the most part good.
The owner of a 1983/84 boat wrote us a lengthy note saying, “Some models built in the 1970s had plywood cabins that rotted, giving bad name to company. Boat had a few minor oversights that were easily corrected. Protruding chainplates on outside of hull and a wide (3-1/2”) caprail of unvarnished teak were subject to abrasion. Therefore, I faired out the teak caprail to extend outboard of the chainplates, then installed 3/4″ x 3/8″ half-round brass rub rails on the full length of the caprails.
The inappropriate use or handling of plywood is another dubious trademark of early Taiwan boats. We’ve often seen cockpit seats made of plywood with teak on top and sprayed gelcoat underneath to make them look like fiberglass; they don’t last too many years before moisture delaminates the plywood, busts through the gelcoat and reveals the horrendous soggy mess. We’re not sure how the seats of the Island Traders were made, but we’d check them closely, too, especially since one reader said his needed reconstruction.
Respondents to our questionnaires report a number of other endemic problems: gate valves instead of sea cocks, poor quality turnbuckles, poor quality sheaves for the cable steering system, poorly designed exhaust system that can lead to engine damage, inadequate support for the rudder stock, and wiring problems, such as connecting the engine starter directly to one battery.
Based on an inspection of Taiwan boatyards about nine years ago, we think there are two principal causes of such misguided efforts: inadequate supervision by American marketers, and inadequate knowledge on the part of the Taiwan workers.
While the best yards, such as Ta-Shing, now rate well against American and European builders, there still are a lot of backyard builders who do things the old-fashioned way, which for the most part means outdoors using the cheapest, most easily available materials. During our visit, we seldom saw workers using power tools. Often a group of workers travels from one shed to the next doing carpentry, metal or electrical work for various yards. One day it’s Hans Christian, the next it’s Island Trader. And to expect that such people understand, let alone have ever heard of, the American Boat & Yacht Council standards for, say, color coding wiring or sea cock installation, is unrealistic.
The bottom line, we feel, is that with good management and supervision, Taiwan can produce quality boats. But judging from the litany of problems associated with Island Traders, we think owners of these boats are likely to get more problems than they’ve bargained for.
Performance
Earlier we noted that the displacement/length ratio of the Island Trader 37 is 422 and a sail area/displacement ratio of 10.7, easily putting it in the “heavy” or “motorsailer” category. With its short, divided rig, we would not expect sparkling performance.
Owner reports bear out this assumption.
Owners consistently rate the 37 as slow upwind and only average off the wind; we think they’re probably being generous at that. “Better in heavy weather,” one owner put it nicely. “Be aware that the boat is very slow,” said another more directly.
On the other hand, the tradeoff is comfort, no doubt due, at least in part, to an easy motion. “Solid and dry. Very stiff and stable platform,” said one owner. The boat also balances well, according to most owners. “We went to windward for four hours without helm adjustment,” wrote the owner of a 1982 model. Given the ketch rig and long keel, the 37 should be hard to knock off a course.
Though the 37 no doubt possesses some attributes of a good cruiser, the extraordinarily heavy displacement and small sail area are severe strikes against it. A good cruising boat is also a good sailer, at least a decent one. The Island Trader 37, by most counts, does not perform well under sail.
Early brochures do not specify a brand of diesel engine, but owners of late 1970s’ models report no serious problems with the Volvo MD3B. Later models had the Yanmar 3QM30H, indicating slightly higher levels of satisfaction with reliability and accessibility.
These first-generation “Q” series Yanmars, however, had a reputation for being noisy; when Yanmar re-engineered the line later in the 1980s, considerable improvements were made. Owners report good maneuverability under power with the Standard 3-blade prop, though one owner said, “Too much prop wash on big rudder; tough to hold on course.” We also have several complaints about being underpowered.
With a 12′ beam, the Island Trader 37 has plenty of accommodations and stowage for its length. As can be seen in the drawing, there is a V-berth forward, head with shower, convertible dinette and extension berth in the saloon, and an aft galley to port and quarter berth to starboard. The Taiwanese love to build doors and louvers and knick-knacks, and the 37 has plenty of these to showcase. Every fashion has its time, however, and the dragons and poppies are beginning to disappear. All-teak interiors tend to be darker, heavier and require more maintenance than bright, modern, high-pressure laminates.
Ventilation is good, with seven portlights and two skylights. “This boat has room and comfort, and she is warm to the eye,” wrote one owner, adding that the “icebox is too big; tough to get to stuff and doesn’t drain well. “
“Her spaciousness is one of her major attractions,” wrote another owner who sails on Long Island Sound. Headroom is an astonishing 6′ 8″ maximum, 6′ 4″ minimum, according to one owner (which may explain why another owner said he has trouble seeing over the cabintop).
Overall, it seems that many people bought the 37 because of its large, teak interior with oodles of stowage.
Judging from the hull numbers of readers’ boats, close to 200 Island Trader 37s were built over about a 10-year period. Company literature describes them as a Best Buy. In 1981, the base price for what was then called the 38 was $69,900. Today, according to the BUC Used Boat Price Guide , that boat is worth between $55,000 and $60,000. Based on the few ads we’ve seen in sailing magazines, this seems about right.
In the same price range, however, you can buy a 36-foot Allied Princess ketch, perhaps an older Pearson 365 ketch or, if you really want the Far East look, a Japanese built Mariner 36 or 40, all of which are much better performing boats with far fewer problems. For our money, we would not touch the Island Trader 37/38.
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… CS chen is the listed designer, but it’s a straight up rip of Hugh Anglemann’s Sea Witch. How is that for pedigree? Even the most cursory Google search could’ve provided that info. Do your research or … how is anyone supposed to believe what your saying? As the owner of a Formosa 36 (same boat, better fit) I can attest it sails half the wind speed up to hull speed. Code zero in <10knts wind. Expect to sail gentlemanly, flat, and in comfort.
Practical sailor, your readers expect better. 5 min of research answered half the questions in the article.
Chen is listed designer for formosa, island trader literally lists anglemann. How can you be sweating over history and pedigree?
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Islander 37
Islander 37 is a 36 ′ 6 ″ / 11.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Bruce King and built by Islander / Tradewind Yachts between 1966 and 1972.
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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
A kit version was sold as the YACHTCRAFT 37.
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Hello All, Looking to hear from owners/ skippers about the stability of a Islander 37 MS in heavy seas, gale conditions ? Yes, I realize that the seamanship of the skipper is always the deciding factor. I think the Islander 37 hull is the same in both I-37 models, except one is built as a motor sailor on the same hull. Thanks, Avery
HighFly27 said: Hello All, Looking to hear from owners/ skippers about the stability of a Islander 37 MS in heavy seas, gale conditions ? Yes, I realize that the seamanship of the skipper is always the deciding factor. I think the Islander 37 hull is the same in both I-37 models, except one is built as a motor sailor on the same hull. Thanks, Avery Click to expand
centerline said: you have answered your own question in your second sentence. the islander 37 is an offshore rated boat but with the smaller fin keel and smaller spade rudder and "pilot house", it is NOT a heavy weather boat. keep in mind that "offshore" rated is NOT the same as "open ocean" rated. the capsize factor may be within reason, but I would consider the need to be at the helm all the time in moderate to heavy seas to keep the boat on coarse due the the keel and rudder design. but there are many boats that are much less that have sailed the world without incident, but few of them have ever faced gale or storm conditions. no one can know the power of a storm at sea, or be mentally or physically prepared for it until they have been thru a couple of severe blows while offshore with a nearly unlimited fetch... but once you have experienced it enough so you know the power it has, then you will have a better idea of what boat you might want to ride thru the experience in... the islander 34 is a much differently designed boat than the islander 37ms... the sailing characteristics cant be compared other than the name.... Click to expand
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I can't say how well it is in heavy seas but in moderate it does quite well. A bit tender heading down wind, but handles it self well. Most of my experience is with wind against current in coastal waters. She was bit of a handful to keep on course but seemed to be able to handle things well.
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The Islander 37 MS Sailboat Specs & Key Performance Indicators
Built on the same hull as the Islander 37 sailboat, the Islander 37 MS was designed by American naval architect Bruce King and manufactured by Islander Yachts, a shipbuilding company located in Costa Mesa, California.
The boat was introduced in the 1960s and aimed to combine performance-oriented design elements with practical features necessary for extended voyages. A kit version was sold as the Yachtcraft 37.
Published Specification for the Islander 37 MS
Underwater Configuration: Fin keel & spade rudder Hull Material: Fiberglass Length Overall: 37 feet (11.28 meters) Waterline Length: 28 feet (8.53 meters) Beam: 11.17 feet (3.40 meters) Draft: 5.5 feet (1.67 meters) Rig Type: Masthead sloop Displacement: 13,400 lbs (6,078 kg) Designer: Bruce King Builder: Islander Yachts Year First Built: 1967 Year Last Built: 1970 Number Built: Approximately 55
Published Design Ratios for the Islander 37 MS
- Sail Area/Displacement Ratio (15.8): This ratio falls just below 16, suggesting that the sailboat is somewhat underpowered. This means that, in terms of sail power relative to its weight, it may not perform as sprightly or responsively as boats with a higher ratio. Therefore, while it may handle moderate winds adequately, it could struggle in lighter conditions where more sail power would be beneficial.
- Ballast/Displacement Ratio (33.6): At 33.6, this ratio is below 40, indicating that the boat is less stiff compared to boats with a higher ratio. This suggests a moderate ability to stand up to the wind without excessive heeling (leaning to one side under wind pressure). However, as mentioned, this does not account for the distribution of ballast, such as whether it's in a deeper fin keel or a shallow draft, which can significantly affect actual performance and stability.
- Displacement/Length Ratio (268.3): Situated within the moderate displacement category, the Islander 37 MS promises sufficient stability and somewhat heavier handling characteristics. It won't be as nimble or accelerate as quickly as lighter displacement boats but offers a handy compromise between performance and comfort, especially in heavier seas.
- Comfort Ratio (30.8): With a comfort ratio indicative of a moderate bluewater cruising boat, the Islander 37 MS is potentially suited for longer passages where comfort in varied sea conditions is a consideration. This suggests the boat is designed to handle moderate sea conditions with less motion discomfort for the crew, making it a good choice for extended cruising or liveaboard scenarios.
- Capsize Screening Formula (1.8): The low score here implies good seaworthiness and a reduced likelihood of capsize in adverse conditions, reinforcing its suitability for offshore sailing. This is particularly reassuring for cruisers aiming for longer or more challenging voyages.
Limitations and Theoretical Considerations:
- The Ballast/Displacement Ratio primarily reflects the boat's initial resistance to capsizing but does not indicate the final stability, which could be compromised depending upon the actual design and distribution of ballast.
- Ted Brewer’s Comfort Ratio tends to favour traditional heavy displacement designs, and might not fully represent the comfort levels of more modern, light-displacement designs with different hull shapes and configurations. Thus, while indicative, it doesn't necessarily capture all elements affecting crew comfort, such as damping characteristics and dynamic behavior in varying sea states.
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In summary, the Islander 37 MS appears to be a versatile sailboat that, while not particularly high-performing in terms of sail power, offers a good blend of stability and comfort suitable for both coastal cruising and longer voyages, assuming that the actual design and build qualities align with these theoretical indications.
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Islander 37
The islander 37 is a 36.5ft masthead sloop designed by bruce king and built in fiberglass by islander / tradewind yachts between 1966 and 1972..
The Islander 37 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.
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| Model | Islander 37 | ||
| Length | 36.50 ft | ||
| Beam | 10.83 ft | ||
| Draft | 5.42 ft | ||
| Country | The Nederlands (Europe) | ||
| Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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| Sail area / displ. | 16.72 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 35.71 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 274.88 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 29.44 | ||
| Capsize | 1.80 |
| Hull type | Monohull fin keel with spade rudder | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 28.33 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 5.42 ft | ||
| Displacement | 14000 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 5000 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 7.13 knots |
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| Rigging | Masthead Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 605 sq.ft | ||
| Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
| Sail area fore | 311.75 sq.ft | ||
| Sail area main | 292.95 sq.ft | ||
| I | 43 ft | ||
| J | 14.50 ft | ||
| P | 37.80 ft | ||
| E | 15.50 ft |
| Nb engines | 1 | ||
| Total power | 0 HP | ||
| Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
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| Water capacity | 0 gals | ||
| Headroom | 0 ft | ||
| Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
| Nb of berths | 0 | ||
| Nb heads | 0 |
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| Builder | Islander / Tradewind Yachts | ||
| Designer | Bruce King | ||
| First built | 1966 | ||
| Last built | 1972 | ||
| Number built | 0 | ?? |
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OK I am on the hunt again. I have found an Islander 37 for sale for a good price and is actually a good bit below my price range, but it will need some work. He says standing rigging is original and in good condition, not sure if that is possible on a 1969 boat? Other than the obvious possible maintenance issues that will be found in a good survey does anyone have any experience with the sailing qualities of the Islander 37? How is the build quality on them as well? This is a bit bigger than I was looking at originally, and I understand the cost of maintaining goes up with the square of the length. I had been looking at the 33 to 35 foot range. My immediate use will be as a liveaboard on the Hudson River, but will likely be moving in the next few years to the west coast of Long Island Sound, with goals of some cruising in about 5 years.
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Islander 37 Sailboat Association | Information and Resources for Islander 37 Sailboat Owners and Friends. Islander Sailboats - History by Skipper Wall. Islander Sailboats. There are owners on the islander37 site. Perhaps contacting some of them and getting their reviews. Patrick. S2 11.0A 36'. Kinsale, Va. Tanzer 16'.
Performance. Earlier we noted that the displacement/length ratio of the Island Trader 37 is 422 and a sail area/displacement ratio of 10.7, easily putting it in the "heavy" or "motorsailer" category. With its short, divided rig, we would not expect sparkling performance. Owner reports bear out this assumption. Island Trader 37/38 Diagram.
Islander 37 is a 36′ 6″ / 11.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Bruce King and built by Islander / Tradewind Yachts between 1966 and 1972.
Moderator Emeritus. Join Date: Feb 2011. Location: SF Bay Area. Boat: Islander 34. Posts: 5,486. Re: Islander 37. The islanders are generally built pretty well. Not fancy, but sturdy. My little 34 is a built like a tank with much larger (2x) chainplates then an I36 for example.
Jul 12, 2015. 1. Islander 37 MS ladysmith. Jul 12, 2015. #5. I can't say how well it is in heavy seas but in moderate it does quite well. A bit tender heading down wind, but handles it self well. Most of my experience is with wind against current in coastal waters. She was bit of a handful to keep on course but seemed to be able to handle ...
Specs & Key Performance Indicators Built on the same hull as the Islander 37 sailboat, the Islander 37 MS was designed by American naval architect Bruce King and manufactured by Islander Yachts, a shipbuilding company located in Costa Mesa, California.
45.38 ft / 13.83 m. Sailboat Links. Designers: Bruce King. Builders: Islander / Tradewind Yachts. Download Boat Record: Notes. A kit version was sold as the YACHTCRAFT 37.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Islander 37 Pilot House is about 189 kg/cm, alternatively 1061 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 189 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1061 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
The Islander 37 is equipped with a fin keel. A boat with a fin keel is more manoeuvrable but has less directional stability than a similar boat with a full keel. The keel is made of lead. Compared with iron, lead has the advantage of being 44% heavier, which allows a smaller keel and hence less water resistance and higher speed.
The Islander 37 is a 36.5ft masthead sloop designed by Bruce King and built in fiberglass by Islander / Tradewind Yachts between 1966 and 1972. The Islander 37 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer.
islander 36 vs. islander 37 Jump to Latest 8K views 3 replies 4 participants last post by Grumpymx Jul 6, 2010 D dave hirsh Discussion starter 15 posts · Joined 2006 #1 · Mar 10, 2010
Yet, in the rating system under "Construction Quality", it gives the boat a low rating, states that original construction was "light", and infers that the only reason so many Islander 36's are still afloat is due to the loving care of their owners (OUCH!). This seems out of context to the general review.
Islander 36 Review. The Islander 36 (I36) is a true classic and depending on whose numbers you believe, there were somewhere between 700 and 800 hulls built between 1973 and 1986 making it an extremely successful design. The company history before the development of the I36 is somewhat sketchy but the story goes that the firm started life as ...
I have found an Islander 37 for sale for a good price and is actually a good bit below my price range, but it will need some work. He says standing rigging is original and in good condition, not sure if that is possible on a 1969 boat?
Islander 28 An Owners Review â€" Boat De Jour. It should be a nice boat. Bob Perry designed it, so fairly modern even in 1975. BTW when the review talks about the 32 and 34 islanders being a perry design, they are talking about the Mark II's. Earlier Islanders, 1960's to early 1970's were designed by McGlasson who took a older Lapworth ...
Review of Yachtcraft 37. Basic specs. The Yachtcraft 37 aka Islander 37 is a sailboat designed by the American maritime architect Bruce King in the mid sixties. The Yachtcraft 37 is built by the American yard Islander Yachts. Here we would have liked to show you nice photos of the Yachtcraft 37.
Same hull as the ISLANDER 37. These boats were also available under the Yachtcraft brand as kits.
With nearly 800 boats built this was one of the most successful models from Islander Yachts. During it"s production history the ISLANDER 36 was delivered with the following engines (in a an approximate cronological order): Universal Atomic 4 -Gas Palmer P-60 - Gas Perkins 4-108 - Diesel Westerbeke L-25 - Diesel Pathfinder - Diesel Yanmar […]